@bearlyy, please spare me your sanctimonious bullshit. There would be an element of hypocrisy to it all if the playing field were level, but it's not. Trump, with his wealth and prominence, uses his position to be predatory. There's a distinct difference between being campy with your friends and talking about a guy's cock or ass, or locker room banter, and using your position to sexually maul women around you. Your comment that it's "normal" and an earlier comment posted here that, "[Donald Trump] talked like he was in a locker room but at the time he wasn't holding any political office and affected nobody" are both way off the mark. It's not normal, most people in authority don't use their position to gain sexual favors and it's not normal--unless your a white male, who does not have to worry about the repercussions of your actions. Think about it, if your were a minority and made Trump like comments you'd find yourself in the middle of a shit storm before you finished your utterance. Ask ANY women if these words "affected nobody" and they will tell you a different story. Give me a break, Trump is a narcissistic creep.
As for your last comment: You just came to the realization that in 2016 that politics is dirty? Put some Neosporin on it and move on.
Anybody who did watch that debate last night and heard Trump say that he would appoint justices like Antonin Scalia, who was the most outspoken homophobic SC justice that we have known, and still thinks Trump is a good choice, it's beyond me how a gay person, concerned about gay rights, can find Trump acceptable.
did miss something or is everyone just seeing this as just words. It is not just words but Trump retelling his story of abusing women by walking in on them in a private dressing room (Because he Can!), actually grabbing woman's genitals at work (Because he can!) and trying to take a married woman bac to his Palm Beach estate to fuck her and she turns him down. This after his third marriage (Three months earlier) to his current wife. This is not locker room talk at all but a sexual predator admitting that he is able to do "What ever I want" because he can. We are talking about the office of the President of the United States and people think this is just words? The reason the Republicans are jumping off the Trumptanic is they realize what this tape and others to come truly show about who he is and how dangerous his election would be. Pence and him want to eliminate LGBT rights and turn this country in to even more of an Oligarchy and people on this site think that is OK? I am not sure where the "facts" of the right come from but they sure as hell don't come from reality.
Bearlyy, thats right! And a gorgeous photograph, too!
Looking from europe, Mr. Trumps obvious misogyny is just one brick more. That other people talk as he does, just shows the level of misogyny, racism, xenophobia of actual societies we live in. The difference is that a candidate for presidency should try hard to change both society and him/herself to a better attitude. I can't see this in Mr. Trump. Nor in Mrs. Clinton, to tell the truth.
I like Mrs. Obama a lot when we can watch her in our local tv. But that is every other blue moon and she doesn't candidate. Surely there are tons of better candidates.
I'm afraid, this coming debacle is a kind of history lesson. About the pros and cons of presidential systems.
Bearlyy, you're right of course that almost all guys, and probably some women, I'm sure, talk like that in private. But it was still shocking for people to see a major party presidential candidate talk that way. In this day and age of virtually everything being recorded, more stuff like this is sure to emerge in future elections. How many people, after all, don't have *some* kind of skeleton in the closet?
I don't think the video, in and of itself, killed Trump. It was the fact that it plays into the already-existing image of him as a foul-mouthed racist, sexist pig.
Thanks to Republican primary voters' stupidity, you are likely right that the Democratic primaries basically decided the next president. That happened in 2008, too, but it wasn't such a slam dunk sure bet this time around, until Republicans picked Trump. The GOP had a lot of advantages that they squandered, unlike 2008, when they had virtually nothing going for them after the eight-year Bush II debacle.
Trump is disgusting. Steve Schmidt on MTP today put the baby to bed. All that's left is to endure the grind until election date.
Here's the transcript from the Steve Schmidt video:
"When we, when we look at this-- When we look at where this race is today, the Presidential race is effectively over. Hillary Rodham Clinton will be the 45th President of the United States. Chuck Schumer will be the Majority Leader of the United States Senate.
And the only question that's still up in the air is how close the Democrats will come to retaking the House Majority. What this exposes, though, is much deeper and it goes to the Republican Party as an institution. This, this candidacy, the magnitude of its disgrace to the country is almost impossible, I think, to articulate. But it has exposed the intellectual rot in the Republican Party. It has exposed at a massive level the hypocrisy, the modern day money changers in the temple like Jerry Falwell Jr. And so, this party, to go forward and to represent a conservative vision for America, has great soul searching to do. And what we've seen and the danger for all of these candidates is over the course of the last year, these, these candidates who have repeatedly put their party ahead of their country, denying what is so obviously clear to anybody who's watching about his complete and total manifest unfitness for this office."
Man, Julian Assange (and Putin?) are really doing their best to get The Donald into the White House. Yesterday, right after the infamous Trump tape broke, WikiLeaks dumped thousands of emails, alleged hacked from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, that purport to reveal excerpts from some of Hillary's speeches to Wall Street firms. Judging from the timing, Assange was apparently hoping to divert some of the attention away from Trump.
But boy, did Assange blow it on the release of these if the goal was to inflict maximum damage. As far as I can tell, most of the damaging material on Hillary here is based on her statements to Wall Street interests in support of various trade agreements, including a hemispheric economy. This might not play well with some unions and some Sanders supporters.
But Assange badly miscalculated. What was he thinking? There is no way that any kind of trade discussion is going to grab attention away from pussy grabbing, and it didn't. :)
Something that Trump doesnt seem to get is that the actions of Bill Clinton and others dont excuse his own bad behavior. The big problem for Trump is that he has a history of negative comments about women. This reinforces his sexist reputation. Trump *might* be able to survive this (though I doubt it) but his rehab needs to start with Sunday's debate.
Trump's error was just words, look what Hillary's actions have done to this country and her plans to do more. 4 dead in Bengazi just for starters those are human lives she plays with. Her actions against the woman that Bill had affairs with ruining their lives because of her husband taking advantage of his position and power and the words and terms she used against them.Yeah Trump might have talked like he was in a locker room but at the time he wasn't holding any political office and affected nobody. The Clinton's have been using their position in politics for gains over 30 years hurting every American citizen. Before you condemn Trump for the words he used think about the things you have said in your own lives while you were with your buddies. Come on guys grow up he said nothing we have not heard in a bar or an email or said to somebody. If you don't want to vote for Trump it is your decision but make that decision on policies and honesty not some stupid banter that will not make a difference in the future of America.
Don't let any "holier-than-thou" Democrat(socialist, progressive, globalist/elitist-they're all the same) whose candidate is an un-indicted felon and whose husband, as PRESIDENT, had adulterous sex in the White House and lied about it suggest to you that suddenly because of an 11-year-old tape Donald J. Trump is "disqualified". In 2005 Trump was a Democrat so we know back then(as now and forever) Democrats can say and do anything without fear of retribution. Notice in the following video clip Obama is speaking in public no less (this is not private banter in a men's locker room). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKYmiWiNqOw
Where was the Democrat outrage? Sadly, Clinton will probably win - the shameless Democrats will cheat, the disgusting liberal media and Hollywood will have hoodwinked us in collusion with the villainous Democrats, and the overall apathy of the American electorate to seek out the truth have doomed us. Both presidential candidates are "characters" for sure no denying it but at least the Republicans had Pence (a sane, statesman-like, and competent man) where as the Democrats had 0 for 2 (a woman totally lacking in character and integrity and Little Timmy Creepy Kaine who's a clown).
I think Trump was going to lose anyway but this is the cherry on top. Republicans are like rats fleeing a sinking ship. It makes Sunday's debate interesting to say the least. Trump is going to have to come up with the performance of his life just to keep this from being a blowout.
As far as me personally, ive been groped by worse than Trump but they werent running for president :)
As for your last comment: You just came to the realization that in 2016 that politics is dirty? Put some Neosporin on it and move on.
Anybody who did watch that debate last night and heard Trump say that he would appoint justices like Antonin Scalia, who was the most outspoken homophobic SC justice that we have known, and still thinks Trump is a good choice, it's beyond me how a gay person, concerned about gay rights, can find Trump acceptable.
Looking from europe, Mr. Trumps obvious misogyny is just one brick more. That other people talk as he does, just shows the level of misogyny, racism, xenophobia of actual societies we live in. The difference is that a candidate for presidency should try hard to change both society and him/herself to a better attitude. I can't see this in Mr. Trump. Nor in Mrs. Clinton, to tell the truth.
I like Mrs. Obama a lot when we can watch her in our local tv. But that is every other blue moon and she doesn't candidate. Surely there are tons of better candidates.
I'm afraid, this coming debacle is a kind of history lesson. About the pros and cons of presidential systems.
I don't think the video, in and of itself, killed Trump. It was the fact that it plays into the already-existing image of him as a foul-mouthed racist, sexist pig.
Thanks to Republican primary voters' stupidity, you are likely right that the Democratic primaries basically decided the next president. That happened in 2008, too, but it wasn't such a slam dunk sure bet this time around, until Republicans picked Trump. The GOP had a lot of advantages that they squandered, unlike 2008, when they had virtually nothing going for them after the eight-year Bush II debacle.
Trump is disgusting. Steve Schmidt on MTP today put the baby to bed. All that's left is to endure the grind until election date.
Here's the transcript from the Steve Schmidt video:
"When we, when we look at this-- When we look at where this race is today, the Presidential race is effectively over. Hillary Rodham Clinton will be the 45th President of the United States. Chuck Schumer will be the Majority Leader of the United States Senate.
And the only question that's still up in the air is how close the Democrats will come to retaking the House Majority. What this exposes, though, is much deeper and it goes to the Republican Party as an institution. This, this candidacy, the magnitude of its disgrace to the country is almost impossible, I think, to articulate. But it has exposed the intellectual rot in the Republican Party. It has exposed at a massive level the hypocrisy, the modern day money changers in the temple like Jerry Falwell Jr. And so, this party, to go forward and to represent a conservative vision for America, has great soul searching to do. And what we've seen and the danger for all of these candidates is over the course of the last year, these, these candidates who have repeatedly put their party ahead of their country, denying what is so obviously clear to anybody who's watching about his complete and total manifest unfitness for this office."
I can only hope the Dems can take the House too.
@fenwaydav--is that David Ortiz?!!!
But boy, did Assange blow it on the release of these if the goal was to inflict maximum damage. As far as I can tell, most of the damaging material on Hillary here is based on her statements to Wall Street interests in support of various trade agreements, including a hemispheric economy. This might not play well with some unions and some Sanders supporters.
But Assange badly miscalculated. What was he thinking? There is no way that any kind of trade discussion is going to grab attention away from pussy grabbing, and it didn't. :)
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/07/politics/john-podes … index.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKYmiWiNqOw
Where was the Democrat outrage? Sadly, Clinton will probably win - the shameless Democrats will cheat, the disgusting liberal media and Hollywood will have hoodwinked us in collusion with the villainous Democrats, and the overall apathy of the American electorate to seek out the truth have doomed us. Both presidential candidates are "characters" for sure no denying it but at least the Republicans had Pence (a sane, statesman-like, and competent man) where as the Democrats had 0 for 2 (a woman totally lacking in character and integrity and Little Timmy Creepy Kaine who's a clown).
As far as me personally, ive been groped by worse than Trump but they werent running for president :)